on genforums from Dawn Street:

My ancestor is John W. Crowder born about 1808 in VA, married to Lucy Jane, also born in VA. i think they had 11 children - Elizabeth Ann, Isabella, Jemima, James S., Emma G., William H., E. A. Crowder, G. W. Crowder, Martha J., John W., and Charles M. His father may have been Jeremiah Crowder (1761-1795) and Martha Frederick. Looks like they had maybe 10 children - Anderson, Elizabeth, Fanny, Issac, Jeremiah, John, Patsy, Pleasant, Sarah and William. Any connection? Dawn

